Graveaxis
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Re: Steering Wheel Thumb Controls?

Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:55 pm

Have you had any progress on the cruise control panel ?

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Re: Steering Wheel Thumb Controls?

Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:39 am

I am interested in adding cruise control to my i-MiEV also. I found Outlander 2006 circuit diagram and I cannot see any CAN connections there. Only resistor network.
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Re: Steering Wheel Thumb Controls?

Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:05 am

Pretty sure lots of things changed with regard to CAN Bus connectivity between 2006 and 2012, and lots more has changed since then too

What CAN connections were you looking for? In your diagram, the resistor network is tied directly to the engine ECU which would translate those resistor switched signals into a CAN message which would be put on the Bus. The object to be controlled would pick those signals off the Bus . . . . *if* the 2006 Outlander is actually using a CAN Bus communication network

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHaxv-cGZFI

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Re: Steering Wheel Thumb Controls?

Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:11 am

Ofcourse Outlander has Can bus. I put the schematic here because we want to use 2006 outlander or lancer steering wheel buttons. Newer models have new steering wheels and their buttons do not fit to i-miev steering wheel. On the end of previous page some people claimed that steering wheel switches are connected to CAN I say that they are not. That means if i-miev has unused wires on the clockspring then we can install for example Liteon AP900C and control it by steering wheel.
Cruise controller connects to can bus to get car speed and between accelerator pedal wire with Y connection and generates suitable voltages so that EV-ECU thinks you have pressed the pedal and we have constant speed!

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Re: Steering Wheel Thumb Controls?

Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:55 am

So i went out to look at the connector on the right side of the steering wheel--it has 4 wires and the wire colors match up with the drawing above in that pin 2 is Blue and 3 is Green. Pin 1 is Violet and 4 is Gray.

I guess the next step is to find the clockspring connector to see if there is continuity across the joint, if there are wires in the harness and if so where do they go...
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Re: Steering Wheel Thumb Controls?

Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:06 pm

I found out that 2011 EU i-MiEV has 5 wires on the clock spring but only three have been connected one is for horn relay and two other wires go to airbag.

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Re: Steering Wheel Thumb Controls?

Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:18 pm

i pulled the covers off and it appears that the 2012 USA version ClockSpring (CS) has 10 channels--on the stationary side 4 are dedicated to the SRS/airbag with a separate yellow connector and yellow wires. The remaining 6 go thru a white connector, but only 4 of those were populated:
pin 1, blue wire, this is the signal return (-) for the left thumb radio and phone buttons, designated REM-.
pin 2, no wire populated, but the CS pin connects to the cruise control switch connector on the right thumb.
pin 3, same as pin 2.
pin 4, gray wire, this is the button-Illumination power supply for the LEDs, designated Ill+
pin 5, green wire, this is the signal (+) for the left thumb radio and phone buttons, designated REM+
pin 6, white wire, is +12V all the time, routed to the Horn button.

On the moving side (steering wheel) of the CS, there are two 5-pin connectors, one carries the 4 SRS wires plus the Horn, the other has one wire for Illumination, a pair for the Radio/Phone, and a pair for the Cruise Control.

The radio switch and phone buttons are tied together to create a voltage divider circuit. Whenever a button is pressed it causes a corresponding voltage to be sensed at the radio. The right thumb switch has a similar voltage divider network, but since we don't have an ECU for cruise control, there was no need to populate wires from the Stationary side of the CS.

The Lancer cruise control thumb switch fits perfectly and the buttons light up with the headlights. i'm thinking i could find the right terminals to populate the CS in order to use the Coast button on the Cruise to switch the gear position to Neutral, or switch to B mode for max regen, etc...
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Re: Steering Wheel Thumb Controls?

Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:55 pm

i'm thinking i could find the right terminals to populate the CS in order to use the Coast button on the Cruise to switch the gear position to Neutral, or switch to B mode for max regen, etc...



This "should" be relatively straight forward.

If I can find a steering wheel with switches for a reasonable price, I will be digging into making the cruise buttons being accessible for any sort of accessories/controls one wishes. N/E/B controls would be awesome for certain.

If the pins don't actually pass through the CS, a simple swap to the appropriate Lancer CS may work.

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Re: Steering Wheel Thumb Controls?

Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:03 pm

I also have one of these.

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-TBAjv14Ug ... id=1&pid=1


This is a really old school Sony car audio wired remote control. Long before the days of steering wheel controls. You would mount it to a center console or the side of the steering column like another stalk. I would say around 1992-ish I had one. Then about 4 years ago I saw one in a store new for $20. Had to have it just in case I thought of something to do with it..........

It operates exactly the same way as the steering wheel controls with a different resistance for each control command.

LOTS of control potential from that thing.

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