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    What's everybody paying?

    I believe one was in Pennsylvania. However, I don't have the details. I forgot about the rebate. I guess with the new car, you might be eligible. The ones that had some mileage were presumably lightly used and the original owner got the rebate already. In any event, my car is a year old...
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    Is this a good price for an SE?

    I think I agree. Residual values look like about 10000. Take a look at my post on "what everybodies paying"
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    What's everybody paying?

    It looks like the I-miev has been discontinued in the US. No 2013's available. I was looking at the new mirage and I was told a new miev went for 14,000 at auction. One with 1000 miles went for about 12,000. I also found an on line calculator that said my car with 3000 miles was worth 9,500...
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    What's everybody paying?

    Sounds good. But to be more precise. What was the list? Also, is that before the 7,500 federal rebate and the California rebates?
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    Speed vs. Power Gauge: Request for Data

    Concerning the power gauge, I contacted Mitsubishi. They weren't very helpful but it did tell me that I don't think we know what the guage measures. Here is their response: ------------------------------------------------------ Thank you for your email to the Mitsubishi Motors Customer...
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    My iMiev needs a "Modifications, Tuning" forum

    Dear All: I don't quite know where to put this. I hope the administrator can put it where ever it belongs. I guess it goes with modifications somewhere. For people like myself (and I think there are a few of us on this forum from my reading), the only real problem with the i-miev is it...
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    What's everybody paying?

    I have an imiev on lease. I'm astonished at the deals some people are getting. However, it raises an interesting question. Based on these prices, my residual value is absurd. If they are going to sell new ones so cheap, I would think they are going to destroy the residual values and we...
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    Heat...did we reach a conclusion on this?

    Dear Vike: You are right on the heat and AC. I reversed my numbers. Marlon
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    Quantifying Regeneration and Consumption

    Dear Joe: I see this thread hasn't been active in a while. Were you able to determine what the power guage actually measures. If it is amps, is the voltage constant. Also, is there a way from the OBD system or perhaps directly, to record the measurement. I'm hoping to find some way to...
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    Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

    Thanks for the response. So if I'm losing 10% of my charge the imiev is more efficient than we give it credit for. On the other hand, the wall to wheels number is still the same. I haven't heard this mentioned before. Concerning my boost at the dealer, it may have been charging longer than...
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    Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

    Dear Joe: (See my last post above). I got about 30 minutes on the dealer charger. They didn't seem to know much about their own charger. Couldn't tell me how much charge or just what type of charger it was. However, the RR went from 27 to 38. Interestingly, I only went from 7 to 8 bars. I...
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    Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

    Dear All: Haven't been on the site in a while. Not much action on this discussion lately, I see. Thought I would report an interesting finding. My dealer is 30 miles away. Took the car for the recall work on the brakes (anyone have any thoughts on this?). They told me they had a Level 3...
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    Even the Tesla Model S....

    I didn't get to drive the Tesla, but I did sit in it. My question, what's the point? Its a big comfortable high performance car that feels like a tank. You can't even shift. You can never justify a car like this just for transport either on an ecological or an economical basis. And I don't...
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    Heat...did we reach a conclusion on this?

    Don: Yes, my experience exactly. The car seems to do two parallel calculations, with and without heat. Turning the heat on or off changes the RR to match. Generally, turning the heater on (I usually turn it full blast) will cut the RR at least 25%, more often close to 33%, and sometimes even...
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    Fuel Gauge Question

    I've thought of all these questions. However, we can't really produce any meaningful answers without knowing how the battery charge has been programmed. It's too bad Mitsubishi doesn't make this stuff readily available. I suspect they are are trying to make the system relatively fool proof...
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    Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

    Dear All: Yes, I agree. No one should get the turtle. I never have and don't plan to. However, yes, it is an interesting academic point. After all, anyone who drives an i miev has to have some interest in batteries and how the charge works. That's part of the fun. In any event, I've been...
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    Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

    Thanks for the input on the turtle light. Do you remember when it came on? When I had the last bar flashing, there was still no turtle light. Was there a reduction in power? You said you kept the amps down. Was that intentional or forced? Also, I don't have an AeroViornmental charger (I use...
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    Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

    to Blue Lighting (and anyone else interested) I think I've got it. Does this sound right? The turtle should come on at about the right end of the zero bar on teh graph when the RR shows --. The power down stage probably hits about the middle of the zero bar and the car goes dead at the left...
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    Turtle riding (How far has the turtle brought you ?)

    Question for Blue Lighting concerning the graph of bars vs. charge. You were ambiguous about the car "going dead." In the graph, I assume the x intercept is the "true zero charge." (or is there additional reserve not shown?) Does the car stop moving (as in that now famous youtube video)...
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    percentage charge...

    I've been charging with a kill a watt. To my surprise, the charging has been almost completely linear right to the point where is shuts off. It must be computer controlled. As far as I know, batteries, like capacators and inductors should charge with an exponential decay. However, this sure...
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