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mdbuilder said:
Never mind, I see they have 'upgrade' the cheap model and raised the price :D
Yep, the Leaf's battery size is addressed here:
http://www.greencarreports.com/news...etly-gets-30-kwh-battery-upgrade-higher-price

Back on topic, perhaps we should identify what is a 'bargain'? My thoughts, as of October 2016 in the USA SF Bay Area, reasonable mileage and condition:

2012 ES basic with Remote $5000; add $500 for SE (primarily for the alloy wheels and DRL)
2012 ES with CHAdeMO with Remote $6000
2012 SE Premium (includes Nav and CHAdeMO) with Remote $7000
2014 ES (includes CHAdeMO) with Remote $7000
Subtract $1000 for not having Remote (roughly the Remote replacement cost)
IIRC, the late-2012 and later have the slightly 'improved' battery packs.

YMMV, depending on your 'need' for either CHAdeMO or the Remote. As always, supply and demand dictate the price (Econ 101).

I notice that the prices have been holding steady for over a year, maybe even going up a bit.
 
I wouldn't subtract $1K for a missing remote. Most owners can get by just fine without one. We used our remote 3 or 4 times in the first year or 18 months (to preheat the car in the winter) but we haven't touched it for the last 2 or 3 years. Our second iMiEV also came with the remote and I'm sure it's laying around here somewhere, but we've never used it for that car

If the remote was better designed and easier to use, it would be a different story. If I found a car I really liked and they wanted $200 extra for a remote to go with it, I'd tell them to keep it

Don
 
I would guess the prices are now holding steady or trending up slightly because the flood of 3 year lease returns is over. Now they are just changing hands as second owners move on. There were never that many of them to begin with and since they tend to be silly low mileage and well cared for you can't really expect to pay much less than 6 or 7K if it is fully functional.
 
I have one car with the remote and one without. I was able to get $500 off the price for it not having the remote (being -10 F outside at the time helped to sell the whole pre-heat notion).

Of the two, I definitely prefer Bear with its remote in winter or extremely hot days. The remote gets used almost every day I drive the car from October (actually this Monday was the start of pre-heating season) until March-April. Though, if I am driving Koorz, I'll move the passenger seat all the way forward and put my space heater in the rear footwell. Given enough time (about an hour), it actually does a better job than the factory pre-heat (defrost or HEAT on the remote, it beats both and actually heat soaks the interior).

I personally think the remote is ridiculously overpriced (as is most of our parts supply), but it's worth it when the car is encased in a layer of ice and one doesn't have to scrape the windshield in the morning :cool:, or worse when the doors are frozen shut (though the i-MiEV has a wonderful door seal design that largely prevents this).

I'd say if you live in a temperate climate (or garage the car), don't sweat not having the remote (though it could be used as a bargaining chip to knock a few bucks off an already great deal). If your car lives outside where it falls below freezing, then I'd say to work a deal on a car without one or hunt around and find one that has it (they all had one from the factory, but they tend to go MIA on the used ones).
 
How do I tell if a 2012 has chademo?
(I'm liking the $5000 prices that are finally showing but none seem to mention QC)
 
This looks like a bargain and, per the seller, has a Chademo port:

http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/cto/5833310760.html
 
Phximiev said:
This looks like a bargain and, per the seller, has a Chademo port:

http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/cto/5833310760.html
Yes, it has the Quick Charge Package and the USB connector per the VIN lookup.

http://www.mitsubishicars.com/rs/file/monroney?vin=JA3215H11CU033052
 
This looks like a bargain:

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/5842240882.html

As does this:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/5862968169.html

And perhaps this:

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/5825614737.html
 
Here are a couple fully-loaded SE Premium's on Craigslist, one near Chicago, IL and the other near Milwaukee, WI.

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https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/ctd/5925232695.html
2012 Mitsubishi i-MiEV SE Premium
White/Blue
29,243 miles
$6,495
http://www.mitsubishicars.com/rs/file/monroney?vin=JA3215H10CU017084


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https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/5933745184.html
2012 Mitsubishi i-MiEV SE Premium
Black
24,500 miles
$6,300
http://www.mitsubishicars.com/rs/file/monroney?vin=JA3215H10CU023113
 
Hey, Phximiev, that's a questionable ad for a Leaf, not an i-MiEV! I just checked, and in the San Francisco Bay Area Craig's List there are 632 Leaf (or Leaf-related) ads whereas there is only one i-MiEV ad (white/blue SE Premium for $7K). Strange click-bait ads are common on Craig's List.
 
JoeS said:
Hey, Phximiev, that's a questionable ad for a Leaf, not an i-MiEV! I just checked, and in the San Francisco Bay Area Craig's List there are 632 Leaf (or Leaf-related) ads whereas there is only one i-MiEV ad (white/blue SE Premium for $7K). Strange click-bait ads are common on Craig's List.

OK, so I called them and it appears quite legit. $19 per month lease for a Model S with quick charge and 30 kWh pack.

Its an additional $16 per month for 15,000 miles per year.
 
Phximiev said:
JoeS said:
Hey, Phximiev, that's a questionable ad for a Leaf, not an i-MiEV! I just checked, and in the San Francisco Bay Area Craig's List there are 632 Leaf (or Leaf-related) ads whereas there is only one i-MiEV ad (white/blue SE Premium for $7K). Strange click-bait ads are common on Craig's List.

OK, so I called them and it appears quite legit. $19 per month lease for a Model S with quick charge and 30 kWh pack.

Its an additional $16 per month for 15,000 miles per year.
Ok, what vehicle are we talking about? :?:
 
PV1 said:
Phximiev said:
JoeS said:
Hey, Phximiev, that's a questionable ad for a Leaf, not an i-MiEV! I just checked, and in the San Francisco Bay Area Craig's List there are 632 Leaf (or Leaf-related) ads whereas there is only one i-MiEV ad (white/blue SE Premium for $7K). Strange click-bait ads are common on Craig's List.

OK, so I called them and it appears quite legit. $19 per month lease for a Model S with quick charge and 30 kWh pack.

Its an additional $16 per month for 15,000 miles per year.
Ok, what vehicle are we talking about? :?:

It's the Model S (versus SV or SL).

Here's the quote:

Thank you for your interest in Nissan and for choosing Autocom Nissan of Oakland as your preferred dealer. My name is Manu Kaur, Internet Sales Manager. Your recent request said you were interested in the Leaf . Below, is your lease quote for an available vehicle that is closest to what you specified.

Stock# - 302556O, 2017, Leaf, S, 30kw
MSRP $33,950
Dealer Discount $8,300
Rebates $12,000
Net Cost $13,950 + Tax and Fees
Lease Term 36
Miles Per Year 12,000
Total Out of Pocket

Monthly Payment

$4,000

$19 + Tax

Residual (34%) $11,543

Price includes VPP. On approved credit.

Have you participated in a professional demonstration and test drive of the I encourage you to experience the and exemplary customer service here at Autocom Nissan of Oakland. We operate on an appointment system to ensure that we are available when you are available to provide the best level of customer service. Please let me know what day and time works best for you.

Thank you for choosing Autocom Nissan of Oakland. My goal is simply to find you the right vehicle while saving you time and money. If you would like information on another vehicle or different options, please let me know so I can provide that to you as quickly as possible. I look forward to helping you enjoy dependability, innovation, and performance of a new Nissan.


Sincerely,

Manu Kaur
Internet Manager
Autocom Nissan of Oakland
2735 Broadway
Oakland, CA 94612
(510) 588-2200
(510) 680-4733
http://www.autocomnissanofoakland.com/

________

This is a bargain.
 
Whilst charging the 'Miev at the Nissan dealer today, we met a lady who had just purchased a 2012 Leaf just off lease with just over 30k miles for $4,700 OTD. Nissan had also just replaced the traction battery and put on new tires.

:shock:
 
Phximiev said:
PV1 said:
Phximiev said:
OK, so I called them and it appears quite legit. $19 per month lease for a Model S with quick charge and 30 kWh pack.

Its an additional $16 per month for 15,000 miles per year.
Ok, what vehicle are we talking about? :?:

It's the Model S (versus SV or SL).

Here's the quote:

Thank you for your interest in Nissan and for choosing Autocom Nissan of Oakland as your preferred dealer. My name is Manu Kaur, Internet Sales Manager. Your recent request said you were interested in the Leaf . Below, is your lease quote for an available vehicle that is closest to what you specified.

Stock# - 302556O, 2017, Leaf, S, 30kw
MSRP $33,950
Dealer Discount $8,300
Rebates $12,000
Net Cost $13,950 + Tax and Fees
Lease Term 36
Miles Per Year 12,000
Total Out of Pocket

Monthly Payment

$4,000

$19 + Tax

Residual (34%) $11,543

Price includes VPP. On approved credit.

Have you participated in a professional demonstration and test drive of the I encourage you to experience the and exemplary customer service here at Autocom Nissan of Oakland. We operate on an appointment system to ensure that we are available when you are available to provide the best level of customer service. Please let me know what day and time works best for you.

Thank you for choosing Autocom Nissan of Oakland. My goal is simply to find you the right vehicle while saving you time and money. If you would like information on another vehicle or different options, please let me know so I can provide that to you as quickly as possible. I look forward to helping you enjoy dependability, innovation, and performance of a new Nissan.


Sincerely,

Manu Kaur
Internet Manager
Autocom Nissan of Oakland
2735 Broadway
Oakland, CA 94612
(510) 588-2200
(510) 680-4733
http://www.autocomnissanofoakland.com/
________

This is a bargain.







$4,000 per month?????
 
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