I've found the same thing. When charging, you turn the key to ACC and select heat or air conditioning, but you do not get heat or air conditioning and all you can control is the fan speed. So if you want to sit in your car and get heat or air conditioning while charging, you have to remember to bring your remote with you.DogMan12 said:With the charger running, I have turned the key to ACC and turned on the heat. Maybe I am too impatiient, but I don't get warm air. The fan runs, but that seems to be it.
Do I have to use the Remote to get pre-drive cabin conditioning?
I would LOVE #2 on your list!RobertC said:Does anyone know how to reprogram the i-MiEV's computer?
Here's my wish list:
1. Heat and AC during charging.
2. Sport driving mode that allows full power (amps) to the motor at start (I want smoky burnouts!)
3. Fan and/or AC battery pack cooling during driving and charging.
I agree - It's a holdover from the ICE powered version which had tons of waste heat, so it didn't need to be efficientpeterdambier said:I still doubt cooking water to warm air is conservative use of energy.
Yes, you did. If you live anywhere with a cold winter climate, using the remote to pre-heat the car is quick and simple - You don't even have to get up early, or even go to the garage to do anything. Just look at all of the shenanigans you yourself are forced to go through because you don't have remote preheatingI do not have the remote and I cannot add it. I dont think I missed anything.
Given time, it doesn't even do as much as our 3.3KW remote pre-heater does . . . . and of course it's a pain in the neck as mentioned earlierI do preheat with a 2 kW fan and heater and it seems to do as much as our 5 kW i-MiEV heater does.
Your English is near flawless, Peter - Hundreds of times better than my German! :lol:I have isolated doors and trunk lid. That helped a lot. But I have not isolated the heater yet. I am sure that improves the original heater.
I hear Swedes, who speak excellent English, make the same mistake. It's easy to understand why, though. The Swedish word for insulate is isolera. But English, with its mishmash of German and Latin word roots, apparently chose the Latin word root, insula, rather than the German word root, isolieren. Nevertheless, I'm pretty certain that we all understood what Peter was saying which is the bottom line for communication.Don said:But, the word is insulated and if you'll check your English dictionary, you'll see that isolated has a completely different meaning
As far as I know it's not possible to add the remote to a car that wasn't supplied with it, so easy pre-heating during charging is a non-starter :-(Don said:Yes, you did. If you live anywhere with a cold winter climate, using the remote to pre-heat the car is quick and simple - You don't even have to get up early, or even go to the garage to do anything. Just look at all of the shenanigans you yourself are forced to go through because you don't have remote preheatingpeterdambier said:I do not have the remote and I cannot add it. I dont think I missed anything.
Don said:To get the heater running, you need the 'Ready' light and you can't get that with the charger plugged in . . . . so, yes, to preheat or cool while charging you need to use the remote
Don
Yes, what you described will work if you are unable to plug the car in.gmarcucio said:So... to preheat while not charging the only way is to run out of the house on a cold morning, turn the key to ready and let the heater warm while you wait in the house for it to warm up? Of course you are using some of your range to heat but if you have plenty of range for your commute (mine is only 9 miles to work) then it should be no problem correct?
JoeS said:I always plug in our iMiEV in the evening (L1) and then usually pre-set my charging start time and finish time to end charging at about 13-14 bars about 1/2-hour before one of us will be leaving the house.
Now that it's winter (sort-of), about 20-minutes before leaving in the morning, using the Remote, I turn on the heater or, if it's really cold (that's relative in California) I turn on the defroster.
The Remote has proven itself to work perfectly every time using the Mitsu L1 EVSE, the Mitsu EVSEUpgrade.com on either L1 or L2, or Clipper Creek L1 EVSE, but is very temperamental (i.e., often produces ERRROR) using the SPX Xpress L2 EVSE. As Vike pointed out, if you do NOT receive an ERROR, it is working as programmed.
I agreeVike said:Just checking back in on this thread, and I find this very strange discussion about "pre-heating/cooling" while the car is NOT plugged in. Umm, guys - that makes approximately zero sense. Either heat or a/c on MAX moves the cabin temperature pretty quickly. Yeah, it hits the battery a bit, but nothing like heating or cooling while nobody's in the car. If your trip's so short there isn't time for the cabin to warm up or cool down, then why bother?
Such a feature would have an excellent chance of stranding absent-minded or careless owners, especially those that get interrupted while on their way to the car. It ain't happenin' - and be glad for that.
No, nothing to do with whether the car is actually charging at that point or not. What you're seeing is a compatibility issue between the the iMiEV and the L2 EVSE (with my SPX, I have yet to figure out a pattern as to when it will accept or when it will give an ERROR). Try using the Remote with your Mitsu L1 EVSE and you'll find that it works perfectly every time.wildfire said:I think this might be helping me to shed a light on my remote issues. The past 2 mornings I have tried to use my remote to pre-heat but it has failed. By the time I use the car is fully charged, and I was starting to wonder if for some reason it would only work if it was actively charging.....but maybe its to do with the charger/programming?! I use a Sun Country Highway LE2.
No, it has nothing to do with the traction pack losing charge - it holds its charge for many many months (but not the 12v battery which will readily deplete due to small continuous loads). The reason for charging the car just before leaving is my (admittedly paranoid) attempt to try to prolong the life of the main battery pack (it's not good for the pack to sit fully fully charged for long periods of time, especially in hot weather).wildfire said:I'm wondering, in cold weather are you setting the car to charge closer to the time you will use it because it loses charge sitting in the cold?? And - once I figure out this whole remote thing - maybe I'll do the same, and that way it will still be charging when I pre-heat....and maybe it will work consistently.
I wait to charge until I need the car so that the battery pack temperature is kept at a nice warm level for better efficiency. If I charge at night and forget to program it for the morning, them my pack temperature is usually around 10 to 12 c and sometimes lower, but if I wait until I need the car then my pack temperature is between 18c and 20c on a frosty 0c morning. I've definitely seen lower kilometers per kilowatt hour when the pack temperature is lower.JoeS said:No, it has nothing to do with the traction pack losing charge - it holds its charge for many many months (but not the 12v battery which will readily deplete due to small continuous loads). The reason for charging the car just before leaving is my (admittedly paranoid) attempt to try to prolong the life of the main battery pack (it's not good for the pack to sit fully fully charged for long periods of time, especially in hot weather).wildfire said:I'm wondering, in cold weather are you setting the car to charge closer to the time you will use it because it loses charge sitting in the cold?? And - once I figure out this whole remote thing - maybe I'll do the same, and that way it will still be charging when I pre-heat....and maybe it will work consistently.
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