imeev
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2013 Mitsubishi I Suggestions

Thu May 24, 2012 11:47 am

Here's a list of all the things that I thought should be improved for the 2013 I-Miev or later. (Red is for long term changes)

1) Cruise Control

2) More colors such as blue, red, green. (Discontinue the raspberry color)

3) New SAE quick charge port.

4) Shifter changed for left side steering wheel.

5) 6.6kw Charger.

6) Better seat material.

7) GPS should include EVSE locations. (Get data from Plugshare when smartphone connected?)

8) Show various energy information on the nav screen.

9) Option for light colored seats and dash.

10) Some slight aerodynamic improvements.

11) Reduce price by at least $2000.
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Re: 2013 Mitsubishi I Suggestions

Thu May 24, 2012 12:10 pm

I'll add:

Allow the ability to see both trip distance and Range Remaining at the same time.

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Re: 2013 Mitsubishi I Suggestions

Thu May 24, 2012 12:40 pm

Well., there you go :D

What a great suggestion - I'll BET this one gets their attention

Just add another $3K worth of stuff . . . . and then cut the current price by $2K and everybody's happy! :lol:

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Re: 2013 Mitsubishi I Suggestions

Thu May 24, 2012 1:02 pm

Climate controls need to be higher up so you don't have to take your eyes so far off the road. I understand previous models had them higher and horizontal.

imeev
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Re: 2013 Mitsubishi I Suggestions

Thu May 24, 2012 1:08 pm

Don wrote:Well., there you go :D

What a great suggestion - I'll BET this one gets their attention

Just add another $3K worth of stuff . . . . and then cut the current price by $2K and everybody's happy! :lol:

Don


Why do you think Mitsubishi only sold 79 in april? It's only going to get worse if no improvements are made.

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Re: 2013 Mitsubishi I Suggestions

Fri May 25, 2012 5:52 am

fjpod wrote:Climate controls need to be higher up so you don't have to take your eyes so far off the road. I understand previous models had them higher and horizontal.
Yes, the Euro version has the 3 knobs in a horizontal alignment, but I don't think they are any higher than our top knob

I find that once I have the CC all 'set up' for our normal use, the only knob I have to touch is the top one . . . . turning it one click CW or CCW to tweak the comfort level. This is for use with the A/C but it looks to me as though it will work the same in the winter with the heater

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Re: 2013 Mitsubishi I Suggestions

Fri May 25, 2012 6:08 am

imeev wrote:
Don wrote:Well., there you go :D

What a great suggestion - I'll BET this one gets their attention

Just add another $3K worth of stuff . . . . and then cut the current price by $2K and everybody's happy! :lol:

Don


Why do you think Mitsubishi only sold 79 in april? It's only going to get worse if no improvements are made.

Whenever you bring out something brand new and totally different, you've gotta expect that it's going to take some time to catch on. Selling only 79 of them at a profit is much better than selling 500 of them at a loss. Sales will get better once there are enough cars on the road for the public to become familiar with them. I know we get lots of questions from friends and neighbors and we've taken several of them for a test ride. The car just as it is will sell itself to lots of folks once they are exposed to it. I know I had lots of interest, read everything I could find and then was really blown away the first time I drove one

Is it perfect? Of course not, nothing ever is, especially not with the first generation. Should they make some tweaks? Of course, but I wouldn't look for anything major - Certainly nothing that's going to increase the price of the car, since it's probably not terribly profitable as it is

They're offering an 8 year, 100K battery warranty which I doubt they could do if it came with a 6.6 Kw charger. As it is with the smaller charger I suspect we're going to find that lots of people will be hugely dissatisfied 3 or 4 years from now when the car will only go 35 or 40 miles because fast charging the battery has reduced it's capacity by 30 or 40%. So long as it hasn't developed a bad cell, Mitsu is not going to replace those range reduced batteries under warranty either - That's why we all signed arbitration agreements I suspect . . . . they KNOW many of us are going to have battery issues in the future and we'll be expecting some sort of adjustment toward the price of a new battery. A 6.6 Kw charger would only increase those problems times 4

It takes an hour to recharge a DeWalt 18v 1.7 Ah drill battery . . . . you'd better have 3 or 4 if you want to keep on working. Could they sell you a 20 minute charger for it? Sure they could, but you'd not be too happy when it ate up your battery life and you had to replace them every few months. With the battery technology as it currently is, the last thing the car needs is a more powerful charger. People who need to drive 200 miles per day should not be buying these cars. Maybe one day battery technology will improve so that you can fast charge them and still get great battery life, but we're not there yet.

The price probably WILL come down a bit in future years as they develop better batteries, but they can't lower the price if they're doing things like reshaping the body or doubling the size of the battery charger

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Re: 2013 Mitsubishi I Suggestions

Fri May 25, 2012 10:20 am

Don

Thanks for explaining. :) I guess the entire list is for what should eventually be added to the next generation I-miev. 2013 is probably too soon to add numbers 5, 10, 11, but the rest is quite basic. If something adds too much to the price, then put it as an option.

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Re: 2013 Mitsubishi I Suggestions

Fri May 25, 2012 11:24 am

I love the car, and what it stands for, and it is engineered well, but you can tell they didn't pay enough attention to converting it from "Japanese use" to "North American use". ...maybe the cost would have been even higher if they had??

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Re: 2013 Mitsubishi I Suggestions

Sat May 26, 2012 11:36 am

I agree that charging your battery bank faster (in theory) will reduce your battery life.

However, it seems to me that the direction things are going is to tout "fast charging ie. DC charging. They claim that you will be able to charge 80% of your "dead" battery pack in less than 30 minutes. I do not see me running my battery bank to almost empty then having to recharge it fully. I can see every now and them to charge for say 10-15 minutes to get me back to say 75% SOC to get rid of range anxiety" now and then. After all the newer EV's coming out (Ford Focus, Honda FIT EV will all have shorter charge times but they will also have the same battery guarantee - 8 years , 100,000 miles. So do they know something we do not? What would be a very useful fact is to track an MIEV owner that only charges with 120V and another that only charges with 240V.

I see the ASE plug of the future being a 3-Way charger. 120V, 240V and straight DC. Having two separate charging ports has to go. I think it was pretty cleaver to have the plug they do use both 120 and 240V and I guess I could see no technical reason why you could not have another set of holes that work with high voltage DC. Only time will tell who wins that race.

I think that they should offer a lot of options on the 2013 models, like CC, etc. They way they can still keep a reasonable base price and still give the customer what they want. Every one has different needs. For example I would not have been without the cold climat e package living in Colorado. But why would you need it in Florida or Southern CA?

One thing that definitely needs to be done is making the 12V system totally separate from the main battery bank. I have found a noticeable decrease in range when I use the heater or AC. The good thing is that normally you do not have to use much AC or Heat as you would in an ICE car simple because you do not have a ICE engine in front of you heating up you space in the first place. You could easily put larger 12V batteries in the front of the vehicle.

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