archie_b
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120V charging cord

Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:48 pm

Based on everything I have read and/or seen, there is nothing to prevent someone from stealing the 120V charging cord when opportunity charging away from home. I spoke to a Leaf owner who has the same concern.

Many employers and businesses have no problem with letting you use a 120V outlet, but most will balk at installing a 240V level 2 charging station. In my case going to a major shopping and entertainment area is 33 miles each way. Without the ability to charge while shopping, dinning or taking in a movie, I can not use the i. Until 240V charging stations become more common in most areas, 120V charging away from home will be the norm.

Hopefully this is something that can be addressed either aftermarket or by Mitsubishi.

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Re: 120V charging cord

Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:18 pm

Do you mean someone could steal the 120v charging cable while you're plugged in and charging your Mitsubishi i Miev?

What's the difference between this and someone stealing a 240V cable?

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Re: 120V charging cord

Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:57 pm

Marta: the Level 1 (120vac) EVSE cord can be unplugged from the wall and also from the car, so someone could walk away with it. The Level 2 cord is usually permanently attached to the fixed-mount EVSE.

A possible solution is to stick the Level 1 box inside the vehicle through the open window and then close off the window so just the cords come out.

Since I don't have my iMiEV yet and I forgot to take note when I was at the dealer, does the "i" Level 1 J1772 plug have a provision for a small padlock?
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Re: 120V charging cord

Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:25 pm

JoeS wrote:Since I don't have my iMiEV yet and I forgot to take note when I was at the dealer, does the "i" Level 1 J1772 plug have a provision for a small padlock?


JoeS, just checked for you, the J1772 connector does have a padlock hole in the release button approx. 1/4" diameter.

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Re: 120V charging cord

Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:41 pm

While I do not know what Mitsubishi would charge for a replacement level 1 EVSE (the 120V cord that comes with the car), I found out that Nissan charges around $700 for a new level 1 EVSE. Assuming Mitsubishi would be similar, it behoves an owner to exercise caution and lock the J1772 plug as securely as possible.

If anyone can find out what Mitsubishi does charge for a replacement EVSE it would be interesting to know. I live in an area where the car is not on sale yet and asking my dealer anything about the car results in a "...duh, we don't have that information yet."

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Re: 120V charging cord

Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:38 am

Wee John wrote:JoeS, just checked for you, the J1772 connector does have a padlock hole in the release button approx. 1/4" diameter.

Thanks for that. Hope we never have to resort to using a padlock...
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Re: 120V charging cord

Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:21 pm

There is a hole in the handle near the release button. Inserting a small rod through the hole will keep the release button from being depress. You can pass a lock through it to prevent theft of your charge cord set.

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Re: 120V charging cord

Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:00 pm

I discovered I can get away with using the 120V charger for my driving needs. I travel 43-47 miles per day, 16 miles freeway the rest surface streets. I plug in at work for 2-2½ hours then at home for 12 hours and that keeps the battery level between 3 bars and 13 bars.

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Re: 120V charging cord

Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:42 am

Here's my fix for the whole issue - leave it in the trunk:

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Re: 120V charging cord

Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:16 pm

That looks like a workable solution - The only negative I can see is that it requires using an extension cord, which the Owners Manual warns you never to do (Pg 1/20)

If you're going against that warning and choose to use one anyway, I would 1.) Keep the cord as short as possible, 2.) Make sure it's a 12 gauge, 3 conductor cord and 3.) Ensure the plug and socket on the cord are in very good shape . . . . use a newish cord and not an older one which has been used a hundred times before - I would go buy a brand new one and not use it for anything else

The cord in your pictures looks pretty old and beat up

Don
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