JoeS
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Re: EVBatMon Readings

Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:04 am

With Mitsubishi's technique of concealing capacity loss as simply the reduction in turtle range, I tend not to get too excited about capacity readings. At this point in time, I still can't detect a decrease in my effective range amongst both my two i-MiEVs and the original i-MiEV I sold (which I still visit often with its new owner). Phximiev, in approaching Mitsubishi, what strategy do you intend to employ? I haven't recently heard of anyone doing Mitsu capacity testing using MUT3 - I personally wouldn't give my i-MiEV to a Mitsubishi service center to "test" unless I had a seriously-noticeable range loss.
EVs: 2 Wht/Blu SE Prem., '13 Tesla MS85, 3 156v CorbinSparrows (2 Li-ion), 24v EcoScoot(LiFePO4)
EV Conv: 156v '86 Ram PU, 144v '65 Saab 96
Hybrids: 48v1kW bike
ICE: '88 Isuzu Trooper. Mothballed: '67 Saab (orig.owner), '76 MBZ L206D RHD RV

Phximiev
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Re: EVBatMon Readings

Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:38 pm

The strategy is/was as follows:
1. I scheduled a battery test with Mark Mitsubishi after giving them both of the EvBatMon readings.
2. Today, they did the wrong test (the "cell smoothing" test instead of a "capacity" test), see this topic: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2386 . Then the service manager said to call Mitsubishi service as they couldn't do what I requested. They did not charge me for the battery "cell smoothing" test. (Forum members perhaps should note this if they request a capacity test and the dealership does the cell smoothing test). After the cell smoothing test the RR on our car showed 66 miles.
3. I called the Mitsubishi service folks and have opened a case, the notion being that with 22% degradation, I have a warranty claim under the 10 year warranty and pages I-4, 5 of the manual as the battery is less than 2.5 years old.

As an aside, we were given an i-Miev loaner. It was a 2012 i-Miev (JA3215H17CU022346) with no quick charge, a battery that was 3 months younger than ours and 18k miles. After taking the battery to one bar and recharging, the RR showed 52 miles. EvBatMon shows (32% degradation):

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I emailed this info to the service manager.

To be continued.
2012 iMIEV ES
2014 Chevy Volt

Julian46
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Re: EVBatMon Readings

Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:51 pm

Here's mine - bought used at 106,000 KM - 2012 - still get about 100KM on the RR with full charge - really happy with the car - my wife drives it more than I do (other one is a 2017 FFE) - our Battery Condition PMC is 76.67 % - 36.8 Ah

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PHEV: 2017 FFE
EV: 2012 iMiev

JoeS
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Re: EVBatMon Readings

Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:52 pm

Julian46 wrote:Here's mine - bought used at 106,000 KM - 2012 - still get about 100KM on the RR with full charge - really happy with the car - my wife drives it more than I do (other one is a 2017 FFE) - our Battery Condition PMC is 76.67 % - 36.8 Ah
http://imgur.com/a/dW306
(sorry not sure how to upload inline images)
Hello Julian 36, and welcome to the forum. Delighted that you're happy with your i-MiEV - be careful, some wives glom onto the car and don't want to let go! Bet she/you will really appreciate the i-MiEV's cargo capacity with the rear seats down, especially compared to the FFE.

EVBatMon IIRC assumes 100% capacity is 48Ah, which perhaps is optimistic. Your capacity is pretty much normal, and you may even see it go up! In any case, one soon develops a knack for making the range be whatever is needed to make the trip, and we alter our driving behavior accordingly.

Providing the link to your image (as you did) works just fine if bracketing the url with [img] doesn't work with the website to which you uploaded your picture. Here are some hints, as we've all struggled with this at one time or another -
http://myimiev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1626

BTW, might let us know where you're located, as we have quite an international membership on this forum -
http://myimiev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3196
EVs: 2 Wht/Blu SE Prem., '13 Tesla MS85, 3 156v CorbinSparrows (2 Li-ion), 24v EcoScoot(LiFePO4)
EV Conv: 156v '86 Ram PU, 144v '65 Saab 96
Hybrids: 48v1kW bike
ICE: '88 Isuzu Trooper. Mothballed: '67 Saab (orig.owner), '76 MBZ L206D RHD RV

rnlcarlov
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Re: EVBatMon Readings

Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:42 am

My car is from 2011 and I got it with 6600km two years ago. Now it's closing in on 24k and the currenty capacity is 40.8Ah.

Julian46
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Re: EVBatMon Readings

Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:24 am

Hi Joe - and everyone else !

We are located in a small town in Southern Ontario Canada.

Thanks Joe for the link re: pictures - I figured it out - and added a link to the imgur image url with the embedded link to the pic - seems to work fine - here's some more pics below - we found out about it being available on a Canadian Nissan Leaf Facebook group (its fun to follow all the groups on all the EVs) - we weren't specifically looking for a another car / EV but this was meant to be - the seller (another member on this forum) was located about 30 mins away and happy to show it to us. One test drive is all it took and it was priced really well to sell - thanks to the previous owner wanting to spread the EV word - only needed new tires to certify even with 100K km on the odometer - my Wife loves the look of it / the way it drives / the fact that its a pure EV and you're right - how much stuff it can hold (see second pic below) - we have a good balance of L2/L3 chargers around and I have a SunCountry (Clipper LCS-25) for home charging the FFE and the iMiev.

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PHEV: 2017 FFE
EV: 2012 iMiev

JoeS
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Re: EVBatMon Readings

Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:33 pm

Julian46, thanks for posting the photos. Great car color, and the dogs look so regal!
EVs: 2 Wht/Blu SE Prem., '13 Tesla MS85, 3 156v CorbinSparrows (2 Li-ion), 24v EcoScoot(LiFePO4)
EV Conv: 156v '86 Ram PU, 144v '65 Saab 96
Hybrids: 48v1kW bike
ICE: '88 Isuzu Trooper. Mothballed: '67 Saab (orig.owner), '76 MBZ L206D RHD RV

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