Re: my Miev will not charge
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:23 pm
mikedufty wrote:Have you looked at the 5 or 6 different threads on it in this forum.
Your experience with the dealer sounds a lot like electronpushers
Are you in the same state?
I'd be very reluctant to try the ECU without something firmer.
I've been trawling through this forum. I've read enough to know it's possible opening up a few parts and looking for scorch marks might save me from buying a new part. I hadn't read electronpushers thread yet. I'm in northern NSW.
100% agreed I'd like some more confidence of which part has failed before replacement. I feel like that path could easily be like flushing $1400 down the drain, only to spend $4000 to replace the charger.
mikedufty wrote:Are you a member of the Australian Electrical Vehicle Association? There is a bit of discussion on the AEVA forum too.
<span>One member in Brisbane has just bought a wrecked i-MiEV. He is going to use all the parts to convert a Cortina, but might be willing to let you try swapping some bits for troubleshooting. I guess you are not likely to be nearby if you are 300km from a <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/?field-keywords=electric%20vehicle%20charger&tag=myelecarfor-20" class="interlinkr" target="_blank">charger</a>.</span>
Yes I'm a member. I started reading this forum first however. I'm about 8 hours drive from Brisbane though it might be worth thinking about borrowing parts.
mikedufty wrote:<span>A few people are trying to pull the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/?field-keywords=electric%20vehicle%20charger&tag=myelecarfor-20" class="interlinkr" target="_blank">charger</a>s apart and replace components but I don't know if any have succeeded.</span>
<span>jray3 on this forum and at least one other have succeeded with second hand <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/?field-keywords=electric%20vehicle%20charger&tag=myelecarfor-20" class="interlinkr" target="_blank">charger</a>s. Their is an imiev being parted out on ebay in the uk at the moment, though I didn't see the charger listed, and they want 1500gbp for the motor ecu, but might be worth looking into.</span>
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_ssn= ... =200&rt=nc
From what I read skylogger replaced a resistor and two capacitors and revived a charger. He had a spare car to work with, but also put in a lot of effort, with a lot of help from kiev and coulomb from what I've read.
That link is highly appreciated.
mikedufty wrote:<span>You could also try asking Mitsubishi for a 'goodwill' warranty repair. That is what they say they are doing for us. Haven't said exactly why they approved it, but we had 2 factors in our favour - that the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/?field-keywords=electric%20vehicle%20charger&tag=myelecarfor-20" class="interlinkr" target="_blank">charger</a> was only 2 years old, having been replaced in a recall, and that we have an extended warranty certificate from the dealer that sold it.</span>
I have neither of those things. However rather than being assertive with the local dealer, who is subject to the policies of Mitsubishi Australia, maybe I should just contact Mistubishi Australia and plead my case? It sounds like you had a good experience with that?
kiev wrote:P0A09 [DC/DC Converter error (1)] troubleshooting is found here:
http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/i-miev/on ... 300ENG.HTM
i'm always leary of shops that just want to throw parts at a problem hoping to fix it--how is it that the cost of the part has any bearing on the repair if they don't know the root cause? Shame on them, this is the troubleshooting flow chart that they should be using.
It didn't sound right to me at first either. Having followed the troubleshooting process in the service manual, (depending how other stuff checks out) it gets to Step 8 "Replace the on board charger/DC-DC converter" then if that doesn't work it goes to Step 9 "Replace the EV-ECU.". So this seems to reflect what the dealer told me - they are just following Mitsubishi's process. However they have suggested replacing the EV-ECU first as it's a cheaper part...
Really it seems like if they had a spare charger or ev ecu they'd just swap it as a test. The diagnostic process seems entirely based on the idea that you'd have several i-mievs at the dealer, and plenty of spare parts on hand. They don't have any documented process for testing the parts aside from putting them in another car. I don't know if there is any way without specialised equipment to test the parts in isolation?