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Re: Tesla Model 3

Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:26 am

Maybe this is why the Model 3 seemed familiar when I first saw it. This image is of the Aptera 4e concept (the 2e was Aptera's primary vehicle that never was):

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Supposedly, reveal #2 is real soon.
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Re: Tesla Model 3

Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:57 pm

I had been a long-time Aptera reservation holder. Its claim-to-fame was it's ultra-low coefficient of drag, combined with a small frontal area. The above conceptual sketch showing the covered wheelwells is wonderful IMO, and I sure wish some automaker would be brave enough to defy the currently-in-vogue 'aggressive' styling and implement this. Sadly, Tesla has veered away from this, even dropping their original (optional?) aerodynamic wheels because of their looks.

Pity that the weenies from Detroit Aptera hired were more concerned with fluff than with getting a functional cost-effective electric vehicle into production.
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Re: Tesla Model 3

Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:45 am

Battery production has begun at the Gigafactory!
https://www.tesla.com/blog/battery-cell ... igafactory

They're also starting solar cell production in New York this summer.
https://www.tesla.com/blog/tesla-and-pa ... buffalo-ny
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Re: Tesla Model 3

Wed May 31, 2017 8:09 am

Latest pictures of "in the wild" Model 3 test cars. I'm liking the updated color scheme of the interior. With the right material and texture, that dash will look good and be really easy to clean, all while keeping glare down (three things the I-MiEV dash does rather well).

My grind is the fit and finish of the body panels, which makes it obvious to me that the front and rear bumpers will change on the production cars. No way Tesla would release a car with seams that uneven.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/posts/2123278/

Getting closer. Some reports say reveal is June 2nd or 3rd, but officially, it's still slated in July (at least start of production).

Bolt or 3 as Koorz replacement, that's the question :mrgreen: .
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Re: Tesla Model 3

Wed May 31, 2017 11:32 am

PV1 wrote:...Bolt or 3 as Koorz replacement, that's the question :mrgreen: .
With Tesla HQ almost in my backyard and owning a MS85, I'm a Tesla fanboi; however, the practicality of the Bolt and especially its wonderful ability to control regen (both one-pedal driving as well as paddle control) makes it a tough decision provided long-distance driving is not on the table.

Although I can't forgive GM for their historic transgressions (going all the way back to the 1920's and 1930's consciously destroying America's electric suburban train infrastructure) and their continuing ICE corporate culture and lack of BEV charging infrastructure support, IMO their "function over form" is compelling with the BoltEV. I'll know more after test-driving the M3.

Happily, I feel that I presently have the best of both worlds with my i-MiEVs and MS85, and personally don't have to make any vehicle purchase decisions in the forseeable future. :roll:
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Re: Tesla Model 3

Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:00 am

Here are the tires the RC (Release Candidate) cars have been riding around on.

https://www.amazon.com/Continental-ContiProContact-Radial-Tire-40R19/dp/B00E5AV0VE

I hope they last a lot longer than what I've been able to get out of the I-MiEV tires. :shock:

Less than 2 months now.
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Re: Tesla Model 3

Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:47 am

PV1 wrote:Here are the tires the RC (Release Candidate) cars have been riding around on.
https://www.amazon.com/Continental-ContiProContact-Radial-Tire-40R19/dp/B00E5AV0VE
$256.20 on Amazon :o

I'm surprised that they're not LRR. Guess performance has a higher priority.
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Re: Tesla Model 3

Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:41 pm

Yep. The Bolt rides on Michelin Energy Savers at $152 each, so it wins on tires.

I guess this is why Tesla vehicles are consistently among the least efficient EVs available...that and how scarily connected they are.
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Re: Tesla Model 3

Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:49 pm

PV1 wrote:Yep. The Bolt rides on Michelin Energy Savers at $152 each, so it wins on tires.

I guess this is why Tesla vehicles are consistently among the least efficient EVs available...that and how scarily connected they are.


Relatively inefficient, but still very efficient in absolute/ comparative terms to oil burners, thus remaining massively ahead of the curve.
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Re: Tesla Model 3

Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:53 pm

Definitely. High 80's still doubles practically every gas burner. I'm curious on the official numbers for the 3, given that it is smaller and should be considerably lighter.
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