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Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:32 pm

Phximiev wrote:Having seen pics of the Bolt interior and considering our family physiques, we would probably find the Bolt to be quite comfortable consistent with the opinion of others. However, anyone here have issues with the 'bolsters'?
http://www.mychevybolt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5675&p=11983#p11983
I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary during my brief test drive, but will pay attention to seat comfort and legroom the next time I go for a more-extensive looksee.

I figure a huge organization like GM has human-factors as an integral part of their design process so I can't imagine anything really weird. I happen to like cloth seats and pleased to see those as standard.

Shades of the bad-mouthing our lightweight i-MiEV seats received by 'professional' reviewers. Still dunno what the fuss was about.

Already have one friend that I had convinced to go BEV a couple of years ago (he bought a Leaf) just place an order for a BoltEV in addition to his Tesla 3 reservation. Even though he's never been stranded and they only put on less than 5K miles/year, he has wife-induced range anxiety issues. :x (I know, I know, I'm not being politically correct :twisted: ). As I've said before, the BotEV is a game-changer as for many people it panders to perceptions which, as in politics, nowadays seem to matter more than ever. :roll: That said, for people with significant commutes and no ability to charge at work, it certainly fills that need.

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Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:34 pm

I happen to find the i-MiEV seats very comfortable, so I don't know where the reviewers got that complaint from (then again, based on their other review aspects, I don't think they were even driving the same car). I predict the Bolt will arrive sometime this summer in PA, so I'll likely get some seat time then.

The seats in the Volt are pretty comfortable, so it's likely they didn't ruin the Bolt's comfort.
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Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:36 am

pbui19 wrote:unfortunately the shape and size gives the Bolt about the same Cd as our iMiev, around 0.3x or so. If GM put the same hardware into a Volt body and gives it a heatpump heater, it'll be a winner. The lower Volt's Cd, around 0.2x i think, probably can push the range north of 260-mile on the highway.

Slightly off topic, if Elon truly wants to advance the EV adoption, he ought to open up the Supercharging station to the public. Tesla vehicles can have the priority, and I wouldn't mind paying for the electricity. With the 200+ range, we can get some serious e-miles in.


No, the i MiEV has a Cd of ~0.36 and the Bolt EV is ~0.32 - which are significantly different.
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Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:06 am

Anybody tracking the mybolt.com topics? Its busy over there, I can hardly keep up with it.
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Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:16 pm

saw a post somewhere stating that the 0.32 for the BoltEV was a GM estimate and GM never actually measured the final number. Apparently the highway range is better than expected. I also just noticed while installing the front license plate that there is active front grill louvers, supposedly closed when cooling is not needed to improve aero. Our Volt also has the active louvers but I rarely see them closed.

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Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:26 am

Chevy has a Bolt at the Pittsburgh Auto Show. I stopped by yesterday to check it out. Size and interior space and feel are nearly identical to the i-MiEV. Rear cargo room looks to be bigger with the seats up, but I doubt the rear seats will go totally flat when folded down.

I snapped a few pictures, but it was tough as it had the largest crowd at the Chevy booth :D . Times are changing.

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Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:37 pm

Stopped by the Chevy dealer for another test drive of the BoltEV, specifically to try out the regeneration. In a nutshell, it's fantastic! In D it has creep, but using the paddle you can bring it to a complete stop. In L it has no creep, and fully releasing the accelerator will also bring it to a complete stop. The dealership had at least one row of these things in stock:

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Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:36 am

Is that your 'Miev on the left?
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Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:44 am

Phximiev wrote:Is that your 'Miev on the left?
Yes, that's Mitti. I went in and was completely up-front with them that all I wanted to do was take a test drive to check out the regen, but the poor saleskid they assigned to me had to go through the whole rigmarole of interrogating me for the usual contact information and "buying cash or credit or lease?", "which options package do I prefer?", "trade-in?", etc. In the end, I think he learned quite a few things about the car and EVs in general. When we came back he had a a list of questions he couldn't answer and to his credit he followed up with an email. For example, one item I wanted to see was a SoC number, but unfortunately Chevy decided to only show a fuel gauge and three superimposed range numbers (max, min, nominal) in miles.
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Re: Chevy Bolt production version

Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:46 pm

JoeS wrote:
Phximiev wrote:Is that your 'Miev on the left?
Yes, that's Mitti. I went in and was completely up-front with them that all I wanted to do was take a test drive to check out the regen, but the poor saleskid they assigned to me had to go through the whole rigmarole of interrogating me for the usual contact information and "buying cash or credit or lease?", "which options package do I prefer?", "trade-in?", etc. In the end, I think he learned quite a few things about the car and EVs in general. When we came back he had a a list of questions he couldn't answer and to his credit he followed up with an email. For example, one item I wanted to see was a SoC number, but unfortunately Chevy decided to only show a fuel gauge and three superimposed range numbers (max, min, nominal) in miles.


Saw my first Bolt in person today outside of Courtesy Chevrolet in Phoenix, pulled right in front of me and stopped at the light. After pulling up next to it, the folks test driving it expressed their delight with the car. A bright blue color, looked great.

Now its our turn to take a test drive, the question being when.
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